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November 19, 2010

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Alexis

The only reason these stories spread faster than the ones of where pastor's "demonstrate levels of high moral character, contrition, and/or personal transformation" is because that is what pastor's are suppose to do. They are supposed to display that level of character; it’s the standard, the norm so it isn't news. It's news when they do the opposite because people expect higher from them (which is something that anyone that is in that position knows without it being said) and they're usually preaching to the pulpit about it (i. e being faithful, honest, etc.) every Sunday. I'm sure he had plenty sermons on infidelity, lies, and faithfulness while he was being hypocritical and doing the opposite. While its admirable that he took responsibility for his actions and admitted what he did (which is IMO between him and his wife), I found it interesting that he tried to make it seem like just because it was 1, it was better than sleeping with 10. Whether its 1 or 50x times a sin is a sin, you don't get less points for singular or plural. At the end of the day, he is no more than a man but hopefully the next time around, he can resist things of this world, and follow the path he has chosen.
*sidenote* I can’t believe you quoted Lip Stick Alley LOL as your gossip source.

The Critical Cleric

@Alexis,
Though I agree that high levels of integrity should be the norm for all pastors. I don't think that is reason enough not to commend pastors for publically admitting their shortcomings. In my view, we can hold pastors accountable for their deeds and acknowledge when they corrected their improper course.

Also, since I'm not a member of Empowerment Temple I won't speak about the content of Pastor Bryant's sermons and I'll leave it at that. And I agree that committing adultery with one woman is not necessarily better than committing it with 10 but I don't think that was his point. In my reading, he was simply trying to clarify the facts from the various stories in the public sphere.

Lastly,why can't you believe I quoted Lick Stick Alley? Is it not a gossip site? I could have listed others but honestly they were the most aggressive in their criticism of Bryant.

Kingdom

All Pastor's should be held accountable and I believe more accountable then the folks in the pews. I mean aren't they the experts of the book?

The Critical Cleric

@Kingdom...no, all pastors aren't experts of the bible (assuming the bible is what you mean by "the book").

But even if one is a so-called expert concerning scripture that doesn't necessarily mean that they will be any more moral and/or integritous than someone who is not an expert. It is possible to acquire knowledge and not be changed by it.

Moreover, pastors should be held accountable because they represent One greater than themselves not because they are "experts of the book".

Denise Tucker

I am sad to hear that another pastor have fallen and another divorce has taken place with our leadership. I will continue to pray for our leadership.

Crisp Mens Shirts Attract Me

my ex husband is a beautiful man who I will forever love. he will always be a Man before a Minister or a Pastor. He is married again because that significance makes him reputable and eligible for the recognition he needs as Trustworthy and Reliable and what Appears Stable to the Masses. He loves preaching and helping people I know its his first love. He still however struggles everyday with infidelity and blurring the lines of his POSITION as a man of Integrity. I know this must be true for other men. I am not guessing, I know because I am his temptation, I keep myself Out of sight and understand that I do not want be his weakness and I, Have chosen Not to allow his fall from grace be.

1luvGOD

Jamal Bryant is living with ex wife. He's a fraud and a disgrace to the Body of Christ. Gizelle is no better. She's a "gold digger" and all about the $$$$$.

Nancy Williams

No one is perfect and who are we to judge? There is only one judge and that is GOD! If you read you would know that many men of GOD fell prey to adultery. Even David and he was a man after God's own heart. If we focus more on God and God's word we would Love one another as we love ourselves. Trust and believe Love covers a multitude of sins. In order to be forgiven by God we must be willing to forgive others. May God Bless us all

OLA

Adultery is rampant in so many churches. It’s a sure sign that the Apostate Church is ripe for judgment.
The early Church that started in the baptism of Holy Ghost and fire in 33 AD, has since descended into the Apostate Church we have today in 2012!
How did this happen?
For in the early Church, if you lied you died!
“But Peter said, Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie…You have not lied to men but to God.”
“Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things.” [Acts 5:3-5]
Becoming a Christian in the early Church was serious business. People really had to count the cost!
If you got drunk during the Lord’s Supper you got sick and also died.
“…he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgement to himself…for this reason…many sleep [die].” [1Cor.11:29,30]
I guess all these dead Christians didn’t know that all there sins, past, present and future had been washed in the blood!
I guess they didn’t know that if only they put their faith in the death of Christ on the cross, God wouldn’t see all their lying and drunkenness!
They didn’t know these things because these false doctrines didn’t exist in the early Church!
All these Christians died in this present dispensation of grace!
As Pastors started teaching that our deeds have nothing to do with our relationship with the Lord, the Holy Spirit and the fire of God, began to withdraw from the Church.
Since then, false teachings have increased tremendously over the past 1,900+ Years
Now we have fornicators, adulterers and homosexuals in the pulpit and no one bats and eye!
The Apostate Church is made up of all those who believe in God, read the Word, listen to sermons, attend the Lord’s Supper; but who also regard as permissible acts of adultery, homosexuality, stealing, lies, revenge and hatred.
While claiming to believe in God, they give no thought to sinning against Him!
Now the Lord is about to to start His Millennium Church, but first He’s going to
completely destroy the Apostate Church.

Marie

I am a friend of the of the young girl that was believed to be Pastor Jamal's Bryants mistress. At the time she was 16 years old when the affair started. (16 a minor) What people don't know is she is now 23 with a child by the pastor. He pays her child support etc to keep her quite. My friends aunt tried several times to bring the case to court. My friend still has received the confidence to come out against him. I am saddened everyday to know what my friend has been through. She now is a single mother, and a wonderful mother. She has cut me off since I told her I would speak out against it. In my eyes this is rape. My friend was pregnant at 16 and had her baby by 17. I want this to come to and end and win justice for my friend.

Marie

Sorry for my misspellings. My friend has NOT received the confidence to speak out. She has chosen to remain silent and NOT speak out about the situation at all. Many from his church don't believe their pastor would do such as thing. Well here is the proof. Im not bashing the pastor but something needs to be done before someone else's child becomes a victim.

Bro Donald

Sis Marie,
If you have all of this info why do you conceal it. Eventually the baby should know who the daddy is and the sooner the better. To bad you are not woman enough to tell the story and leave it at that. The truth will set you and me free. Don't come online and talk about it be about it. It is obvious you have a guilty conscious and need to vent. I'm not trying to be mean but just saying what kind of friend are you, really?

K.J.

At the end of the day (or the age rather) all men will stand before the Holy God and give an account for every thought, word and deed.

My problem is with the church, why are they still allowing this man to stand up in the pulpit and spit hypocrisy? Does anyone know how to STAND for GOD these days, and not man?

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ODION

PASTOR BRYANT IS A GIFTED SPEAKER AND PREACHER. HE OBVIOUSLY WAS WELL BROUGHT UP YES HE FAILED, YES HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, YES HE SINNED BUT HE DID NOT SIN AGAINST US BUT AGAINST GOD YES HE LET HS FAMILY DOWN. THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED FORGIVENESS. WE ARE NOT THE LORD JESUS THAT DIED FOR BRYANT. IT IS NOT OUR BLOOD THAT WAS SHED. I CHOOSE TO KEEP WATCHING HIM ON TV AND TO CONTINUE TO RESPECT THE POWER OF GOD IN HS LIFE. HE IS MARRIED TO A GOD FEARING WIFE I SUPPOSE SHE DID THE RIGHT THING.

ODION

ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT WHEN A PASTOR FALLS BY WAY OF SIN IS TO ASK WHO WAS NOT PRAYING? MAJORITY OF PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH TO BE FEED BUT SHOULDN'T THERE BE CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE BEEN FEED ENOUGH AND ARE NOW MATURE TO A POINT WHERE GOD SHOWS THEM WHO AND WHAT TO PRAY ABOUT? THIS SORT OF STORIES SHOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST AS A WHOLE.

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